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Post by Dragon Sucks on Jul 25, 2012 14:40:56 GMT -5
I became a fan watching him in Global. I followed him in WCW and thought he was quite good there. I've actually never seen his WWF run. Though I did laugh at Cornette's story about a booking meeting at the time. It was for a Raw in Nova Scotia. He said they were kind of thin on babyfaces at the time, and the Patriot was starting to get momentum in the deal vs. Bret Hart. Obviously, being in Canada, Bret was going to get cheered over the Patriot that night. During the meeting, they lay out some scenario where the Patriot gets laid out and left looking, as Jim put it, "like a plate full of piss." Then they moved on to something else. Jim spoke up to say he didn't know if it was a good idea, since he'd already be getting booed that night, and it could cut his momentum. They went on to something else (Jim guessed it was probably Sable's t-shirt spot or something). Jim spoke up again: "Can someone please tell me why we're assassinating the fucking Patriot?" Kevin Dunn replied, "Jim, I find you very tiresome." Which, of course, opened the floodgates for a Corny rant about Dunn's teeth ("Bucky Beaver") and who knows what else. He walked out and "got out of creative meetings for 2 weeks." Then Vince called him and told him he should apologize. Jim said Dunn should apologize to him. Vince said that Jim offended Kevin. Jim said Kevin offended him to. Vince said he felt Jim had crossed a line and made it personal. So, in Jim's words, "the only time I ever apologized to anybody and didn't mean it," took place at Vince's house. Jim said he made some kind of apology, and Dunn looked at him and started crying. He then said, "The kids in school always used to make fun of my teeth." In telling the story, Jim pauses for a few seconds, then yells, "You make half a million dollars a year, get your teeth fixed!" I used to have a bad overbite where kids would make fun of my teeth, so I can kinda relate. I like Jim and agree with some of his views but he seems like he flies off the handle and makes things personal somtimes. But then again Dunn did sound like to instigator. It's funny how many people in teh wrestling business turn out to be whiny and overly sensitive. |
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jul 25, 2012 17:25:35 GMT -5
I became a fan watching him in Global. I followed him in WCW and thought he was quite good there. I've actually never seen his WWF run. Though I did laugh at Cornette's story about a booking meeting at the time. It was for a Raw in Nova Scotia. He said they were kind of thin on babyfaces at the time, and the Patriot was starting to get momentum in the deal vs. Bret Hart. Obviously, being in Canada, Bret was going to get cheered over the Patriot that night. During the meeting, they lay out some scenario where the Patriot gets laid out and left looking, as Jim put it, "like a plate full of piss." Then they moved on to something else. Jim spoke up to say he didn't know if it was a good idea, since he'd already be getting booed that night, and it could cut his momentum. They went on to something else (Jim guessed it was probably Sable's t-shirt spot or something). Jim spoke up again: "Can someone please tell me why we're assassinating the fucking Patriot?" Kevin Dunn replied, "Jim, I find you very tiresome." Which, of course, opened the floodgates for a Corny rant about Dunn's teeth ("Bucky Beaver") and who knows what else. He walked out and "got out of creative meetings for 2 weeks." Then Vince called him and told him he should apologize. Jim said Dunn should apologize to him. Vince said that Jim offended Kevin. Jim said Kevin offended him to. Vince said he felt Jim had crossed a line and made it personal. So, in Jim's words, "the only time I ever apologized to anybody and didn't mean it," took place at Vince's house. Jim said he made some kind of apology, and Dunn looked at him and started crying. He then said, "The kids in school always used to make fun of my teeth." In telling the story, Jim pauses for a few seconds, then yells, "You make half a million dollars a year, get your teeth fixed!" I used to have a bad overbite where kids would make fun of my teeth, so I can kinda relate. I like Jim and agree with some of his views but he seems like he flies off the handle and makes things personal somtimes. But then again Dunn did sound like to instigator. It's funny how many people in teh wrestling business turn out to be whiny and overly sensitive. Yeah, I actually felt bad for Dunn, because I imagine he did catch some hell for it when he was a kid. But if he's making that much money, he really should have been able to get them fixed by that point. As far as whiny and overly sensitive, that reminds me of Jim's clash with Johnny Ace when Jim was with OVW and Ace was head of talent relations. Jim said Ace had fired guys out from under him with no notice, screwed up a scheduled appearance by Randy Orton, the creative team had Doug Basham (OVW's top heel at the time) shave his head with no notice because "they wanted to see what he looked like bald." So Cornette calls Ace and gets his voicemail and says something like, "This is Jim Cornette. My top heel just walked in looking like a 40 year old truck driver. Can you please tell this alleged "creative" team that if they can't imagine what he would look like, give me a couple weeks' notice, I'll book him in a hair match, I'll shave it, and sell some fucking tickets. Thank you, fuck you, goodbye!" He went on: "I yelled at him and called him a stupid son of a bitch for fucking with my business. Then I get a call from up there - 'Jim, you can't yell at him, we're a publicly traded company.' I said, 'We're not even a privately traded company, I'm trying to make some money here, leave us the fuck alone.' Then they said, 'You hurt his feelings.' I said, 'He shouldn't have such soft fucking feelings, he's in the wrestling business." Back on topic though, I actually met Del Wilkes a couple years ago at Fanfest. I got a photo op with him and had him sign a Patriot mask. |
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Post by The Blue Blazer on Jul 26, 2012 1:49:06 GMT -5
I'm not going to say Jim Cornette is always right or always wrong...but he sure as hell is always entertaining in some way.  |
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jul 26, 2012 4:15:13 GMT -5
so why does the guy who plays him now suck Because Tom Brandi sucks. Hell, Marc Mero during his feud with him even broke kayfabe one night and told him he's not Salvatore Sincere the Pizza Delivery boy from Italy..he's Tom Brandi, a jobber, a nothing, a loser, a joke, nothing more than a clown who can't even win a match. Tom Brandi was a bad replacement for Del Wilkes's Patriot gimmick. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Tom Brandi. Seriously, take your boots and toss 'em in a trash can because none of the fans are getting their money's worth when Brandi's in a ring! |
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Post by Trent Valentine on Jul 26, 2012 6:43:28 GMT -5
Because Tom Brandi sucks. Hell, Marc Mero during his feud with him even broke kayfabe one night and told him he's not Salvatore Sincere the Pizza Delivery boy from Italy..he's Tom Brandi, a jobber, a nothing, a loser, a joke, nothing more than a clown who can't even win a match. Tom Brandi was a bad replacement for Del Wilkes's Patriot gimmick. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Tom Brandi. Seriously, take your boots and toss 'em in a trash can because none of the fans are getting their money's worth when Brandi's in a ring! Has he done ANYTHING memorable other than don a goofy looking clown outfit and call himself...sincere? |
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Post by Old Man Bob Holly BSP on Jul 26, 2012 14:57:54 GMT -5
The Patriot is one of the few things that I remember about the old Global promotion of the early 90's. Anyone else remember that? They actually had a show on ESPN. Global was fun. I liked having wrestling on ESPN. |
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Post by SciFi on Jul 26, 2012 18:17:16 GMT -5
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Tom Brandi. Seriously, take your boots and toss 'em in a trash can because none of the fans are getting their money's worth when Brandi's in a ring! Has he done ANYTHING memorable other than don a goofy looking clown outfit and call himself...sincere? It's an all time low when you have to buy somebody elses shtick to be a working stiff on the indy circuit. That might be the biggest failure as far as making a name for yourself in the wrestling biz. |
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Post by The5thHorseman of being a f**k on Jul 26, 2012 20:03:33 GMT -5
I liked the Patriot, underrated, underutilized and I loved the mask. Anyone remember the Dark Patriot?
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Post by jehyeah on Jul 26, 2012 20:33:25 GMT -5
I used to come home from school and watch Global on ESPN. I was a Patriot mark during his feud
or match with Tugboat Taylor.
The flying shoulder block, from the top rope, became one of my favorite moves at the time.
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