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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 23, 2012 16:19:46 GMT -5
I reject the vacation of wins. The fine? I accept that; it's justified. The bowl ban? Justified. The loss of scholarships? Justified. The probation? Justified? But losing 112 wins? For some reason, I hate this and simply refuse to acknowledge this punishment. What do the games from 1998 to 2011 have to do with the actions of Penn State's higher-ups? That's still punishing the athletes and the fans and the band members who worked hard and poured their hearts out for the sake of pride in their school and their football team. You can't tell me to forget fourteen years of victories and athletic history and expect me to listen to you. The President of the United States can't say that we won the Vietnam War, Nintendo can't say that they didn't release the Virtual Boy, and the NCAA can't say that I didn't see the Penn State Nittany Lions win 112 games since 1998, and they can't motherfuckin' stop me. No they can't stop you. But they can make sure those wins never really existed. As for the athletics and band members and fans I'm not really sorry. I mean they went to the school, and from what I know it's a very good school, to get a quality education. They still got that right? Or if they went to Penn State as a football player and were drafted into the NFL and could making a living playing football so they succeeded in that way as well. So that fact that some wins that happened while the people were at the school didn't officially happen doesn't bother me at all, because the students got out of Penn State what was really important. |
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Post by clashcitytrucker on Jul 23, 2012 17:01:15 GMT -5
This was the worst scandal in the long history of college football, and I think it did warrant this unprecedented punishment package. If the NCAA did their usual wrist-slapping and limpdickery, it would send the usual mixed message so that's the only reason all those university presidents empowered the NCAA to slam a sledgehammer over JoePa's ghost.
It's why I support the vacated wins decision.
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Post by Bald Bull on Jul 23, 2012 18:24:41 GMT -5
I like this. I hope Iowa gets all of Penn State's running backs. I also like that Penn State's official record from 2005 is 0-1 (0-1 Big Ten) I like that nothing in Penn State's 2008 regular season happened...except this:  Its like they Benoit'd whatever they won but kept everything they lost. |
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Post by Good News, Bad News! on Jul 23, 2012 18:24:55 GMT -5
The wins were vacated, meaning the results are null-and-void, as opposed to forfeited, which would mean all the teams they beat since then would get a 1-0 victory in the books. Some of Mississippi State's wins over a two-year period in the late 1970's were vacated, giving some of the teams they beat 1-0 "wins." At some point, the NCAA went from having wins forfeited to vacated.
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Post by clashcitytrucker on Aug 2, 2012 7:44:05 GMT -5
And for the record, any PSU player transfering out to another school isn't a traitor or whatever stupid nonsense the Penn State-faithful-need-to-shut-up-right-now is spewing.
One, I can't blame players leaving for another football program that might actually play in a bowl game/national championship, specifically those aiming for a NFL career and wanting as much national TV coverage as possible to help their draft stock. Or even just those guys who want the privlege to say hey I got to play in a Bowl game, and possibly even win or a few. Nor do I blame players for wanting to stay at PSU. They're adults, they're allowed a privlege to transfer out w/o penalty out of this hell of a PR/human/criminal disaster.
Plus Penn State poached SMU players once that program got the Death Penalty back in the day.
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Post by The MaDaBa on Aug 2, 2012 10:37:05 GMT -5
I'm certainly not calling them traitors. I am saying that playing in a college bowl game is overrated because of the fact that it's so arbitrary and sometimes unfair what teams get to play in which bowls.
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Post by clashcitytrucker on Aug 2, 2012 14:46:46 GMT -5
I'm certainly not calling them traitors. I am saying that playing in a college bowl game is overrated because of the fact that it's so arbitrary and sometimes unfair what teams get to play in which bowls. Well sure. But for a player, especially one who won't have a future in pro football, a bowl appearance will be the culmination of their football lives. |
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Post by clashcitytrucker on Aug 30, 2012 11:33:19 GMT -5
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Post by clashcitytrucker on Sept 1, 2012 13:45:25 GMT -5
If Penn State had applied to the over-caution they just used to ban "Sweet Caroline" from the home games to, well you know....then Penn State wouldn't be in this mess.
(Seriously banning that song was silly.)
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Post by clashcitytrucker on Sept 8, 2012 10:26:52 GMT -5
Somebody is making a movie about the scandal, w/ Al Pacino attached to play JoePa.
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Post by The MaDaBa on Sept 8, 2012 10:41:36 GMT -5
Oh, come on; couldn't you get someone who...is good?
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Post by shemmy86 on Sept 8, 2012 21:21:15 GMT -5
Old news/image, still fits:  |
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Post by The MaDaBa on Sept 15, 2012 17:36:58 GMT -5
Penn State's football team just recorded its first "official" win in 15 years, defeating Navy 34-7.
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Post by pyoobez on Sept 18, 2012 1:12:30 GMT -5
Glad that Penn State beat the Navy. The last thing the players needed was to choke off some seamen.
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Post by clashcitytrucker on Sept 18, 2012 7:50:00 GMT -5
Glad that Penn State beat the Navy. The last thing the players needed was to choke off some seamen. You beat me to that joke! |
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