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Post by entombed on Sept 14, 2012 17:03:07 GMT -5
I was just thinking, what if Rock, Hogan, Austin, HBK or Taker were given some of the crap that other workers (some more talented) were given. Some of the stuff that they were told to run with despite it's chances of failure. Here our some angles that fit with this.
"Mama Benjamin"
How horrible was this for Shelton? most gifted performer outside of HBK has to push around his "mama" who is really a comedian. If this was Austin, would we still take him seriously? Chugging them beers and pushing his mama. "Push Mama/Raise Hell/Leave"
"Katie Vick"
Lucky for Glen Jacobs he is a creepy guy so it didn't really effect his career. For others, I only shudder to think how Mr. Wrestlemania would be viewed in the aftermath of such a storyline. If HBK had sex with a corpse, he probably would of been about as much of a threat to Undertakers Wrestlemania streak as Santino would be.
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Post by Volture is IN HELL on Sept 14, 2012 17:08:28 GMT -5
Undertaker is the Red Rooster (He had red hair)
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Post by Josh Spicer on Sept 14, 2012 17:46:26 GMT -5
Undertaker is the Red Rooster (He had red hair) I thought it was Booger Red...? |
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Post by Joetacos2: Rainbow Dickhead on Sept 14, 2012 19:42:13 GMT -5
"Kerwin White Angle" Imagine Chris Benoit coming out with Kerwin White's theme plus the whole death of Chris Benoit would be weird as fuck  think about it! "Imitate a Wrestler angle" Remember the whole Charlie "fiscal" Haas is playing as the other wrestlers "personas" ok? good, now replace Charlie Haas with Chris Benoit, an now think how bucked up it is? |
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Post by Volture is IN HELL on Sept 14, 2012 19:45:13 GMT -5
Undertaker is the Red Rooster (He had red hair) I thought it was Booger Red...?  |
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Post by Vic Vinegar on Sept 14, 2012 19:54:36 GMT -5
If you think about it gimmicks like Undertaker and Goldust could have killed a career of a person who couldn't portray it right.
But yea, Eugene killed Nick Dinsmore.
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Post by Josh Spicer on Sept 14, 2012 20:11:31 GMT -5
I thought it was Booger Red...? Oh, it's could.  |
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Post by Old Man Bob Holly BSP on Sept 14, 2012 22:20:04 GMT -5
If you think about it gimmicks like Undertaker and Goldust could have killed a career of a person who couldn't portray it right. But yea, Eugene killed Nick Dinsmore. Eugene and Nick's various issues killed Nick's career. But if he hadn't gotten the Eugene gimmick I doubt he would have ever made it out of OVW. His recent interview on AOW goes in to details. |
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Post by Guest on Sept 14, 2012 23:54:27 GMT -5
The one that makes me laugh is from Mick Foleys "have a nice day" Picture stone cold Steve Austin, same music, samelook, same finger. ok using a Howard Finkle voice "Comming to the ring from Austin Texas: Chilly McFreeze"!!!!!!!
Another name they were thinking of for Austin was Baron Von Rottern.
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Post by liveatbirdland on Sept 15, 2012 3:58:20 GMT -5
Here's one straight out of "The Death of WCW"...the Jim Herd idea that Ric Flair should've shaved his head and become Spartacus...
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Post by entombed on Sept 15, 2012 5:49:37 GMT -5
This was just a rumor from back in the day but the Goldust gimmick originally was supposed to be for Sting. I think Dustin was supposed to come in and be a Cowboy.
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Post by The O-Man on Sept 16, 2012 23:15:39 GMT -5
Heidenreich is a frozen nazi and Kenzo Suzuki was a former Japanese Military guy from world war 2 or something.
Cole: Oh my god! ITS WORLD WAR 2 AGAIN!
Kenzo breaks pieces of bamboo off in RVD's fingernails, Heidenreich puts Mysterio in a forced Labor Camp
Perhaps What if the Dudleys went to WCW, and then back to ECW before going to WWF, would their fate be the same as Public Enemy? Not really an angle but a good possibility
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Post by metfan51 on Sept 16, 2012 23:55:34 GMT -5
What about Daniel Bryan and the name Buddy Peacock, which was a name that Regal came up with for him. He certainly would have been endeavored by now if he had that name. I don't even want to know what that gimmick would be.
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Post by Volture is IN HELL on Sept 17, 2012 0:23:18 GMT -5
Eric Angle, Kurt Angle oh wait that's not what you meant is it
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Post by metfan51 on Sept 17, 2012 0:26:33 GMT -5
On a semi related note, as odd as it sounds, it seems like the incest angle between Katie Lea and Paul Burchill could have made their careers. Strangely enough, once they dropped that idea, their careers went into the gutter. Two really great talents and nothing came from them on the main stage anyway.
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Post by silentstranger on Sept 17, 2012 7:07:12 GMT -5
The one that makes me laugh is from Mick Foleys "have a nice day" Picture stone cold Steve Austin, same music, samelook, same finger. ok using a Howard Finkle voice "Comming to the ring from Austin Texas: Chilly McFreeze"!!!!!!! Another name they were thinking of for Austin was Baron Von Rottern. ...okay, I have to ask, are the writers fucking 8 years old? Those are names a kid would come up with for superheroes he doodled in his notebook. |
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Post by Guest on Sept 17, 2012 13:12:32 GMT -5
There is one thing that always comes to mind. Bam Bam Bigelow. 2 things buryed him in my opinion in that I never took him seriously as snickered everytime he was said to be a big time player in WWF or WCW.
The first one was the original king of the ring Bam Bam won his first match and got a bye in teh second round. He faced Bret Hart who had a long match to start and another good match with Perfect. Bret looked dead on his feet walking to the ring, but after taking quite a beating still won! Bigelow looked very weak to me.
The second was his match with Lawrence Taylor. He should never have been booked to loose that. I never took him serious after that.
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Post by The O-Man on Sept 17, 2012 15:02:12 GMT -5
There is one thing that always comes to mind. Bam Bam Bigelow. 2 things buryed him in my opinion in that I never took him seriously as snickered everytime he was said to be a big time player in WWF or WCW. The first one was the original king of the ring Bam Bam won his first match and got a bye in teh second round. He faced Bret Hart who had a long match to start and another good match with Perfect. Bret looked dead on his feet walking to the ring, but after taking quite a beating still won! Bigelow looked very weak to me. The second was his match with Lawrence Taylor. He should never have been booked to loose that. I never took him serious after that. Dont forget the gay tattoo man gimmick in WCW |
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Post by entombed on Sept 18, 2012 14:20:05 GMT -5
Ric Flair joining Ravens Flock... Career Killer or could have been cool?
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Post by Dragon Sucks on Sept 18, 2012 16:07:50 GMT -5
Ric Flair joining Ravens Flock... Career Killer or could have been cool? Career filler. Flair doesn't fit in there at all. Actually, wouldn't have killed his career, would have just been another wtf WCW moment that was shitty at the time but everyone forgets 6 months later. |
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Post by Kaladin on Sept 18, 2012 16:39:35 GMT -5
My friend and I spent a few hours the other day trying to figure out how we could debut Hitler, and how we would turn him face.
Needless to say we ate a bunch of pizza and forgot what we were talking about.
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Post by entombed on Sept 18, 2012 16:40:35 GMT -5
Hitler Kiss Cam
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Post by Dragon Sucks on Sept 18, 2012 17:52:11 GMT -5
Similar to Sgt. Slaughter, he asks for the fans' forgiveness and just wants his country back.
Then he becomes a wacky Jew-loving comedy face.
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Post by Shockwave on Sept 21, 2012 4:20:22 GMT -5
A fair amount of poor angles actually worked well in a weird, endearing way if the wrestler embraced it well enough. Kane survived Katie Vick because he's Kane. Dusty Rhodes made those polka dots work. Barry Darsow made the Repo Man into something still talked about here today 20 years later. I'm not sure anything could have saved the Red Rooster though  |
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Post by ddt on Sept 21, 2012 10:24:53 GMT -5
Eric Young is better than he gets credit for, and part of the lack of respect he gets is due to the comedy gimmick he's been stuck with for years. I really enjoyed him as a heel with the World Elite, and I think he showed his abilities the best at that point. Goofy EY is painful to watch -- he's great in the role, but it's hard to watch his career be wasted.
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