Original Doink hates Hulk Hogan

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Doink The Clown Reveals Why He Hates Hulk Hogan
Posted by Joseph Lee on 09.29.2012

And who influenced the character...

Matt Borne, the original Doink the Clown, had an interview with Inside The Ropes in which he talked about why he hates Hulk Hogan and more. Here are highlights:

On how he was offered the Doink gimmick when he came back to the WWF in 1992: "I worked as Matt Borne on TV. I did whatever they asked me to do. On the third night, Vince called me into his office and he asked me about my history in the wrestling business and from that conversation, he came up with the evil clown thing. It took me a back at first. He thought I could do it given my background but only if I wanted to do it. He told me to go home and think about it and I called him the next week and he flew me back and they had drawings and all kinds of shit and they painted my face different ways. Two weeks later, I was on TV in the nosebleeds section being a clown."

How much of Stephen King's ‘It' and Jack Nicholson's Joker influenced early Doink: "I've actually been told that I have a lot of mannerisms like Jack Nicholson so yeah I watched a lot of Jack and I watched ‘It' and watched pretty much any evil clown stuff I could get my hands on and you know I ate, slept and drank evil clowns."

Who was his original opponent for WrestleMania 9: "I was supposed to wrestle Hogan at WrestleMania IX and Hogan refused. I don't know why, but I think it had something to do with a bad relationship between Hulk and my old partner Buzz Sawyer. Buzz and I, people thought we were brothers, we looked similar. Hogan, I don't know if he was afraid to work with me, so the second choice was Davey Boy Smith and he refused to work with him too. I don't know why because I always got along with him real well but a lot of people were wary of the clown character, so it ended up being me and Crush at WrestleMania IX."

Matt's theory on how Hulk Hogan got his black eye at WrestleMania IX: "Randy Savage gave it to him. I'd bet my left nut and my son's life on it. Hogan showed his true colours, thats why he got the black eye. Randy Savage was a man. Hulk Hogan has never been a man. Hulk Hogan's a big ass pussy. I don't care if you call and tell him I said that. His ex Elizabeth was seeing this small time producer, who happened to be a friend of Hogan. Elizabeth was hiding in the back room when Savage went to see Hogan and he found out about it. Friends don't do friend like that. Who can you say is Hulk Hogan's friend? The only people that can say their Hulk Hogan's friends are the people who are riding his coat tails and trying to make a living off of him like Brian Knobbs or some fat fuck like that. Hogan was supposed to be Savage's friend and he threw him under a bus and he got a black eye for it."

Why he doesn't like Hulk Hogan: "He was an arrogant fuck. I still think he is. I look at him and laugh because I know him for who he truly is. I don't like him. I really find it hard to even like him as a person. He's a phony inside and out. He showed that when he did that to Randy. When he said that him and Randy had made up, after Randy had died, well that's bullshit. Randy hated Hogan."

Differences between workers from the 80s/90s to today: "I could take Curt Hennig, Randy Savage and Bret Hart, those three guys, they could come to the building, haven't seen me for three weeks and we'd just meet in the ring and we would tear it up. We wouldn't have to say a word to each other. We didn't have to talk to each other. That's the way great workers do it. You don't have to choreograph shit. These guys today they're great athletes, but they're not great workers. there's a difference. Working is not going out there and doing a gymnastics thing. working is making the 200 or 20,000 people believe, it's feeding people and making them like what they're eating."

In the interview he also discusses working the first WrestleMania, his beef with "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan, the original "explosive" finish of the WrestleMania 9 match with Crush, Steve Keirn also portraying Doink, Paul Heyman, and more.

Credit: Rajah
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[mentol]

backstage infos are always welcome

doink was great heel

[The Blue Blazer]

Not sure how Doink could have fought Bulldog at WrestleMania IX, as he was fired right around Survivor Series 1992. Nevermind the fact that he debuted in WCW a month and a half before WrestleMania at SuperBrawl III.

[silentstranger]

BREAKING NEWS: Hogan was a total douche!

[Surfer Sandman]

Hated Doink when I was younger but Matt Borne is a man I can respect.

However, tell us something we don't already know about the Hogan-Savage rivalry. Reading an old wrestling mag from '86, I can clearly see how Savage was shafted by facing George Steele instead of Hogan at WM2.

I assume Hogan pussied his way out of that confrontation as well?

[anorexorcist]

I never liked Doink but really like Matt Borne. Closest I came to liking Doink was in ECW. He cut an amazing promo with Shane Douglass. Matt Borne is probably my favourite guy to listen to in shoots. On this occasion I am a bit torn. By now everybody knows Hulk Hogan was not the perfect Mr nice guy but all this dug up hate gets really boring, for me anyway. I'm not sure if it's envy because he still has a high profile job in the business or what but yeah, tell us something we don't know. I still like Hulk Hogan and probably always will. I am not part of the industry so have no clue but from what I read and hear it seems you have to be a bit of a dick to get to the top of the wrestling mountain.

[Kaladin]

The best part about this is Doink calling Knobbs a fat fuck.

[Dragon Sucks]

You can tell Bourne was into his character and became Doink. That's something I think today's guys don't do.

And yeah, Hogan is an ass. What's new?

[silentstranger]

Sept 30, 2012 8:48:07 GMT -5 anorexorcist said:

I never liked Doink but really like Matt Borne. Closest I came to liking Doink was in ECW. He cut an amazing promo with Shane Douglass. Matt Borne is probably my favourite guy to listen to in shoots. On this occasion I am a bit torn. By now everybody knows Hulk Hogan was not the perfect Mr nice guy but all this dug up hate gets really boring, for me anyway. I'm not sure if it's envy because he still has a high profile job in the business or what but yeah, tell us something we don't know. I still like Hulk Hogan and probably always will. I am not part of the industry so have no clue but from what I read and hear it seems you have to be a bit of a dick to get to the top of the wrestling mountain.

So you dont care at all that he treated alleged friends like dirt, and is essentially the exact opposite of the character he portrayed? Thats the thing, hes not a role model, he was never a role model, he was a selfish, backstabbing, roidheaded dickhead who didnt deserve anything he got, and built his fortune on the backs of others. No wonder he's freinds with The Nasty Boys and The Love Sponge, theyre all exactly the same, the dregs of western society. Its not about being perfect, nobody is perfect, we are talking about a decades long career of screwing over everyone unlucky enough to have trusted him.

[Shockwave]

That was really interesting, thanks for posting

[johnnytightlips]

I also thought that Davey Boy was out of the company by late 92'.

Watched an old shoot interview with him sometime ago and (not 100% sure) mentioned that he had heat with Bam Bam Bigelow for stooging him off when he saw him smoking weed or something and not admitting to it.

I've heard Bigelow rubbed other guys the wrong way, like Adam Bomb, who sounded pretty miserable to begin with.

Bobby Heenan said this in an interview: "All the guys who hate Hogan, hate him because they didn't get to work with him"

A spot against Hogan in the 80's would have been great. Like him or not.

I can understand why he did what he did in WWE and even WCW. He was keeping his checks coming.

What I cant understand and the real reason I hate him is what he is doing in TNA. He doesn't need to be glory hog and should be helping build the guys up. He isn't, hes trying to be the center of attention and its hurting TNA as no one wants him to wrestle anymore. Austin Aries is getting lost in the shuffle as a result and hes the F'ing champion!

You have had your time old man! For once give something back to the business that gave you everything!

[WWHHHD]

Uncredible story from an uncredible person.

[anorexorcist]

Sept 30, 2012 11:39:38 GMT -5 silentstranger said:

Sept 30, 2012 8:48:07 GMT -5 anorexorcist said:

I never liked Doink but really like Matt Borne. Closest I came to liking Doink was in ECW. He cut an amazing promo with Shane Douglass. Matt Borne is probably my favourite guy to listen to in shoots. On this occasion I am a bit torn. By now everybody knows Hulk Hogan was not the perfect Mr nice guy but all this dug up hate gets really boring, for me anyway. I'm not sure if it's envy because he still has a high profile job in the business or what but yeah, tell us something we don't know. I still like Hulk Hogan and probably always will. I am not part of the industry so have no clue but from what I read and hear it seems you have to be a bit of a dick to get to the top of the wrestling mountain.

So you dont care at all that he treated alleged friends like dirt, and is essentially the exact opposite of the character he portrayed? Thats the thing, hes not a role model, he was never a role model, he was a selfish, backstabbing, roidheaded dickhead who didnt deserve anything he got, and built his fortune on the backs of others. No wonder he's freinds with The Nasty Boys and The Love Sponge, theyre all exactly the same, the dregs of western society. Its not about being perfect, nobody is perfect, we are talking about a decades long career of screwing over everyone unlucky enough to have trusted him.

Terry Bollea may have been a "backstabbing, roidheaded dickead" or whatever other accusation you want to throw at him but I disagree that Hulk Hogan (the character) was not a role model. Hulk Hogan was a huge role model to thousands of kids all over the world in his prime. Kids who only paid attention to what they saw on screen and knew nothing of the man who played the characters personal life. I was not there so I can only go on what people around him at the time say in shoot interviews and for every person who slates him there is another high profile wrestler who claims Hulk Hogan was one of the reasons they got into the business. The world is fucked up and people do all they can to get to the top of their profession and stay there for as long as possible. I am not saying I agree with what Hogan did and yeah he obviously screwed people over but like I said, whats new?!

Everybody who gives a shit knows all this by now and every time a new accusation comes out I just think it comes across as either desperation to try and get relevant again or jealousy because Hogan is still working for one of the big companies and they are washed up has beens who have bitter tastes in their mouths from something Hogan did to them or somebody they knew years and years ago.

I would not put Matt Borne in either of those categories and like I said I really like the guy and enjoy his interviews and views on the wrestling business. It's just the Hulk Hogan digs are stale now. We all know he did things that sucked. He also did a lot of good (understatement) and helped a lot of peoples careers just by association. Steve Austin, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels and a whole lot of other top faces in the wrestling business have all done things that where pretty rubbish behind the scenes but from what I hear and read, the pro wrestling industry is pretty ruthless and you have to step on some people to get to the top and stay their. Again I don't agree with it and think it's fucking crappy but I am not a wrestler and have no reason to be or was not around back stage at the time and there fore base all my personal opinions on the character I saw on screen who entertained me and many others and was an inspiration. I feel sorry for all the guys that got fucked over but that's life. Get over it.

[silentstranger]

You know why the world is like this? Because when someone acts like an asshole, people just shrug and continue to support them anyway. No wonder the wrestling world is fucked up, fans dont give a shit about how their idols act backstage, they just shell out and continue to enable their behavior. You keep saying you feel bad for the people he fucked over, but apparently, not enough to condemn him for doing it. No no, just shrug and say its none of your business, even though you DO contribute to it.

[PIANO RIFF WOOOO]

Oct 1, 2012 8:27:38 GMT -5 silentstranger said:

You know why the world is like this? Because when someone acts like an asshole, people just shrug and continue to support them anyway. No wonder the wrestling world is fucked up, fans dont give a shit about how their idols act backstage, they just shell out and continue to enable their behavior. You keep saying you feel bad for the people he fucked over, but apparently, not enough to condemn him for doing it. No no, just shrug and say its none of your business, even though you DO contribute to it.

because most of us know it doesn't matter what we say and that in the end it's all just hot air

[anorexorcist]

I have condemned him lots of times. I have said I don't agree with everything he did. What else am I supposed to do? Hulk Hogan was never even a massive deal to me. I have always been an Undertaker follower above anybody else. Anytime I did look up to Hogan in any substantial form was probably when I was around 7 years old and still thought Kamala ate people for dinner so knowing what was going on back stage was not on the agenda. If I was a relative of somebody he fucked over or the actual person I may have more negative thought on the matter but as somebody who is just a fan of pro wrestling the best I personally can do is acknowledge his faults and think it's a shitty thing to do but I am not going to hold a personal vendetta against him. I just think it's pointless in keep trying to shove the fact he was a bastard down our throats because by now we know. If these wrestlers really feel that all as not been said and they have something new to reveal or get something off their chest then it's not for me to stop them but I find it boring now. Hulk Hogan entertained and inspired many fans of pro wrestling over the years and screwed over many wrestlers whilst doing it (allegedly). I happen to be a pro wrestling fan not a wrestler so I have nothing against him personally. Again I will say I realise he trod on many people and I tut tut him for that.

[simplerollup]

Oct 1, 2012 8:27:38 GMT -5 silentstranger said:

No wonder the wrestling world is fucked up, fans dont give a shit about how their idols act backstage, they just shell out and continue to enable their behavior.

So people should choose to be emotionally connected with a character based on how that person acts when they are out of character? That's asinine.

No offense, but anyone who actually thinks your statement makes sense is someone who takes this wrestling stuff far more seriously than any dyed in the wool believers back in the day.

[silentstranger]

Oct 1, 2012 10:47:41 GMT -5 simplerollup said:

Oct 1, 2012 8:27:38 GMT -5 silentstranger said:

No wonder the wrestling world is fucked up, fans dont give a shit about how their idols act backstage, they just shell out and continue to enable their behavior.

So people should choose to be emotionally connected with a character based on how that person acts when they are out of character? That's asinine.

No offense, but anyone who actually thinks your statement makes sense is someone who takes this wrestling stuff far more seriously than any dyed in the wool believers back in the day.

Of course not, but if you like a wrestlers character, and then find out he's a complete assbag in real life, then maybe you should cosnider wether or not this is the kind of person you want to support? And yes, I take wrestling seriously, so seriously that I dont want it to be a business built on backstabbing scumbags and nepotistic carnies. Is it really so much to ask for these guys to muster up basic deceny?

Oct 1, 2012 8:54:32 GMT -5 anorexorcist said:

I have condemned him lots of times. I have said I don't agree with everything he did. What else am I supposed to do? Hulk Hogan was never even a massive deal to me. I have always been an Undertaker follower above anybody else. Anytime I did look up to Hogan in any substantial form was probably when I was around 7 years old and still thought Kamala ate people for dinner so knowing what was going on back stage was not on the agenda. If I was a relative of somebody he fucked over or the actual person I may have more negative thought on the matter but as somebody who is just a fan of pro wrestling the best I personally can do is acknowledge his faults and think it's a shitty thing to do but I am not going to hold a personal vendetta against him. I just think it's pointless in keep trying to shove the fact he was a bastard down our throats because by now we know. If these wrestlers really feel that all as not been said and they have something new to reveal or get something off their chest then it's not for me to stop them but I find it boring now. Hulk Hogan entertained and inspired many fans of pro wrestling over the years and screwed over many wrestlers whilst doing it (allegedly). I happen to be a pro wrestling fan not a wrestler so I have nothing against him personally. Again I will say I realise he trod on many people and I tut tut him for that.

You know, you keep pointing out that its been said before, but apparently, it didnt stick, since Hogan continues to have fans and get employment. And its really easy to sit there and say that it sounds stale, but Im sure its not so stale for the guys who had their careers sabotaged by him. Sure, they couldve been something, but nope, they get to be a fotnote, but hey, who are they to complain when all has been said already, right?

[Naim]

Sept 30, 2012 3:33:19 GMT -5 The Blue Blazer said:

Not sure how Doink could have fought Bulldog at WrestleMania IX, as he was fired right around Survivor Series 1992. Nevermind the fact that he debuted in WCW a month and a half before WrestleMania at SuperBrawl III.

They didn't plan WrestleMania like they do now back then.

[Naim]

Oct 1, 2012 8:27:38 GMT -5 silentstranger said:

You know why the world is like this? Because when someone acts like an asshole, people just shrug and continue to support them anyway. No wonder the wrestling world is fucked up, fans dont give a shit about how their idols act backstage, they just shell out and continue to enable their behavior. You keep saying you feel bad for the people he fucked over, but apparently, not enough to condemn him for doing it. No no, just shrug and say its none of your business, even though you DO contribute to it.

And you don't fall into this category as well?

[kramer840]

I can't believe everyone here isn't LOL'ing at the claim Doink was supposed to work with Hogan at Wrestlemania. Even at his apex as a heel, Doink was mid-card fodder.

[Naim]

Oct 1, 2012 13:26:23 GMT -5 kramer840 said:

I can't believe everyone here isn't LOL'ing at the claim Doink was supposed to work with Hogan at Wrestlemania. Even at his apex as a heel, Doink was mid-card fodder.

Hogan wasn't the focal point of the WWE in 1993. It's plausible.

[Dragon Sucks]

Doink is not a credible source. I mean, he only was wrestling for WWF at the time and interacted with everyone backstage since he was, you know, employed there.

[entombed]

For four seasons, Hogan had a popular television show. Viewers tuned in to see this famous wrestler face a variety of personal and parental challenges, including getting marriage counseling with his wife and having his daughter go on dates. The greatest hardship, however, happened off-camera. During August of 2007, Hogan's son, Nick, was involved in a car crash which left his friend John Graziano critically injured. Law enforcement officials arrested Nick three months later for his role in the accident.